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Mac and cheese Roux help

FostGames · 6 Sep 2026 at 01:47 · permalink

I need help to make a smooth cheese sauce for a Mac and cheese. Typically when I make it the end product comes out a bit gritty and I don’t love that. Trying to get away from the gritty texture.

My usual recipe is for the cheese sauce is 1/4 cup flour and 1/4 cup fat (usually butter but sometimes bacon grease if I have it). I will also throw some pepper in the hot oil before I add the flour to let it bloom. I cook the roux at a low temp because I read that can help with the texture. Cook that stirring continuously for about 5-10 mins. Then I add 2 cups of milk (usually skim) and stir that until it is smooth. Once that looks satisfactory I will add other spices and the cheese. When the dish is don’t I find the cheese sauce isn’t as smooth as I would like it and it seems like I added a bunch of small bread crumbs to it. Not ideal

A few notes. I find when I add milk that the roux turns into a big clump, then when I add more milk it smooths back out, not sure if that’s normal. I also don’t get a ton of colour on the roux before I add milk, usually just a cent darker than the milk.

If you have any solutions or suggestions to get the cheese sauce to a smooth consistency that would be appreciated.

CBOgoooooydaCBO · 6 Sep 2026 at 01:54 · permalink

I use sodium citrate. Google sodium citrate mac-n-cheese.

EthereaIZ · 6 Sep 2026 at 01:55 · permalink

Are you shredding the cheese yourself, or using packaged shredded cheese?

VaykDan321 · 6 Sep 2026 at 01:55 · permalink

I never do a roux for cheese sauce, I do heavy cream and water, American cheese and cheddar, plus whatever other cheese I want. I can dig up a recipe

Bio-Vizier · 6 Sep 2026 at 01:57 · permalink

This is the way.

VaykDan321 · 6 Sep 2026 at 01:59 · permalink

Ingredients:
Heavy Cream: 220g
Water: 183.3g
Yellow American Cheese (grated): 220g
Havarti Cheese (grated): 137.5g
Provolone Cheese (grated): 82.5g
Kosher Salt: 1.6g
Fresh Ground White Pepper: ~1.3 turns
Procedures:
Combine cream and water in a pot, bring to a simmer then immediately turn down to 175°.
With the heat set at 175°, slowly add cheese, salt & pepper while blending with an immersion blender and blend for 30-35 minutes. Once time has elapsed, the temp of the fondue should be 125°-130° before it's done.
Cool to below 41° before storing.
For service, re-heat to above 165° before hot holding for service.

AwzmChriss · 6 Sep 2026 at 02:05 · permalink

Your roux is too hot when you add the cheese, that is what gives it the gritty texture.

LenaElsa · 6 Sep 2026 at 02:08 · permalink

sodium citrate is the active ingredient that makes american cheese make creamy cheese sauces.

AuthorSei-chan · 6 Sep 2026 at 02:09 · permalink

A slice of American cheese is usually enough. Two if you want it extra smooth.

VaykDan321 · 6 Sep 2026 at 02:17 · permalink

Yeah, it's a cheat way to add it. I also like to use cream cheese

Ilya_989 · 6 Sep 2026 at 02:18 · permalink

I swear by adding the first third or so of the milk a little bit at a time and stirring it thoroughly each time you add it.

DSnb666666 · 6 Sep 2026 at 02:19 · permalink

Adding the cheese in batches can help, iirc.

You add the cheese like a quarter cup/handful at a time and stir until fully incorporated, then you add the next batch, rinse and repeat until all the cheese is added.

That, plus as some other commenters have mentioned, adding a slice of American cheese, a hunk of Velveeta or some sodium citrate can help get the sauce nice and perfect

More experienced chefs, please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

VaykDan321 · 6 Sep 2026 at 02:19 · permalink

Cream cheese is another option I found