this gun is crazy. I want a full auto gun with a NORMAL mag, but it takes 80 points.

Yeah I hate that you cannot customize your gun because... because what?

The VSS is absolutely busted, it needs no more help. Christ mate. 35dmg, 3-shot headshot at all ranges, 2 at 5m, 800RPM. Thing has one of the lowest TTKs in the game.

I don't know how it's good with "full auto" mode, but as usual DMR this is terrible trash.
You can kill in body with 3 bullets only at 5m distance. 10m - already need 4 bullets.
It has lowest bullet speed among all DMR. It's even lower than SMG and some pistols.
I played with different DMR quite a lot of rounds, but lvling this thing... is torture.
P.S. you need to reach 15 lvl to get full auto. Good luck and keep your sanity.

The VSS is absolutely busted, it needs no more help. Christ mate. 35dmg, 3-shot headshot at all ranges, 2 at 5m, 800RPM. Thing has one of the lowest TTKs in the game.
But it doesn't work "at all ranges" with it's bullet speed about 300

this gun is crazy. I want a full auto gun with a NORMAL mag, but it takes 80 points.
It sounds like the frustration is having to invest so many points before the VSSM reaches the setup you actually want to use.
Out of curiosity, if the full-auto configuration unlocked earlier, would that make the progression feel better, or do you think the weapon itself still needs some tuning?

You can use fast mag or alts, but I partially agree, they overpriced 30 rounds mag (or auto upgrade)

The VSS is absolutely busted, it needs no more help. Christ mate. 35dmg, 3-shot headshot at all ranges, 2 at 5m, 800RPM. Thing has one of the lowest TTKs in the game.
But it doesn't work "at all ranges" with it's bullet speed about 300
Look at it like this: Without the full-auto mod, it's a highly spamable, low-recoil close to mid range DMR and it works well enough. With the full-auto mod it's an SMG that does DMR damage. I've been having great games with it so far, just wish the iron-sights were better, so I could use those 5 points elsewhere.

this gun is crazy. I want a full auto gun with a NORMAL mag, but it takes 80 points.
It sounds like the frustration is having to invest so many points before the VSSM reaches the setup you actually want to use.
Out of curiosity, if the full-auto configuration unlocked earlier, would that make the progression feel better, or do you think the weapon itself still needs some tuning?
Why for full auto mode you require 40 points while for M16 only 25 ? What is the logic ???

Without the full-auto mod, it's a highly spamable, low-recoil close to mid range DMR and it works well enough.
Pha-hahaha. Tell me you didn't use DMR before that without saying that

this gun is crazy. I want a full auto gun with a NORMAL mag, but it takes 80 points.
It sounds like the frustration is having to invest so many points before the VSSM reaches the setup you actually want to use.
Out of curiosity, if the full-auto configuration unlocked earlier, would that make the progression feel better, or do you think the weapon itself still needs some tuning?
who is the person in charge of your weapons balance department? do you know how this weapon is translated from Russian? it's a military special rifle, and you're giving players a variation in the form of a DMR sniper rifle that has less damage than a paintball gun, with 17 damage at a distance of 110 meters and a bullet speed of 300 meters per second? guys toy pistols in life have more flight speed and damage than what you did, you just wasted resources on creating this weapon, it is useless, it cannot be used as a sniper rifle, because at a distance of 100+ meters, you need at least 7 shots to kill a target, and it is simply impossible to hit a target with such a bullet speed, no matter how much you advance it. Also, you do not allow the AS-VAL rifle to be made, because the modules are too expensive, and as a result, you get a completely dead-born weapon

But it doesn't work "at all ranges" with it's bullet speed about 300
Look at it like this: Without the full-auto mod, it's a highly spamable, low-recoil close to mid range DMR and it works well enough. With the full-auto mod it's an SMG that does DMR damage. I've been having great games with it so far, just wish the iron-sights were better, so I could use those 5 points elsewhere.
dev dont listen to this guy don't change the game just put training modes so he himself can get better not you do it for him kinda like what you guys did with aim assist essentially killing the game long range and smokes

this gun is crazy. I want a full auto gun with a NORMAL mag, but it takes 80 points.
It sounds like the frustration is having to invest so many points before the VSSM reaches the setup you actually want to use.
Out of curiosity, if the full-auto configuration unlocked earlier, would that make the progression feel better, or do you think the weapon itself still needs some tuning?
besides, no matter how much I play, I can't understand why you hate the sniper class and everything related to it, all DMRs except SVK are completely useless,sniper rifles with your redesigned damage system created by sweet spot and the terribly low bullet flight speed simply make you unwilling to play with these weapons and for this class, ballistics is absolutely random, why in BF3, BF4, BF1,BF2042 I can immediately understand the shooting distance and how much I need to get ahead of the target, and I can hit there at distances of 400+ meters without missing, but here in 9 months of the game I can't hit a running infantryman at a distance 80 meters, and if I hit it now, I deal 42 damage...with a 338 magnum sniper rifle.... do you even play your own games? the sniper class, as well as sniper rifles and DMRs, are completely dead, and the game is dominated by unkillable tanks, aim assist on gamepads, and SMGs

The VSS literally has a similar statline as the SCW-10, one of the meta SMGs, but the VSS has a whopping 1.8x headshot modifier. If you can't make it work, git gud.

this gun is crazy. I want a full auto gun with a NORMAL mag, but it takes 80 points.
It sounds like the frustration is having to invest so many points before the VSSM reaches the setup you actually want to use.
Out of curiosity, if the full-auto configuration unlocked earlier, would that make the progression feel better, or do you think the weapon itself still needs some tuning?
No. Progression itself is not the problem. Not be able to meaningfully customize newer guns are the problem. The VZ.61 scorpion has the same problem. In order to put an extended magazine on it I cannot put anything else at all. We need the guns to be fun and useful at the same time.

I preferred the traditional three-four attachments with positives and negatives myself. I think the point system makes the gun customization feel hollow and less fun because it feels like you actually have less options because of high cost which is probably by design.
They probably didn't want to spend to much time balancing attachments so they implemented a system that is partially a psychological check. Hopefully this system wont be in the next game and they go back to the traditional system.