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bueskyting
Rifleman
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17 posts 15 Jan 2024 joined
24 Jul 2026 at 10:25 #1

Some of you will say that it doesn't exist, but I'm TIRED of starting to play, that I'm good at a few games, and that the next day or after a while, I only play in games in which the rival team massacres us and beats us by beating. I don't know if it's matched by win or kill ratio, but it's very tiring. Yesterday I had some good games and I killed a lot, because today I get involved and in the 3 that I have played, all games in which they beat us and nothing can be done. I've been like this for months and it's already tiring

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Ghostfox
Clan Elder
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242 posts 1 Jun 2019 joined
24 Jul 2026 at 10:34 #2

it feels like win ratio, every time i win like 3 rounds in a row the next 8 are just a beat down

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slunk432
Rifleman
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17 posts 2 Jun 2019 joined
24 Jul 2026 at 11:29 #3

Some of you will say that it doesn't exist, but I'm TIRED of starting to play, that I'm good at a few games, and that the next day or after a while, I only play in games in which the rival team massacres us and beats us by beating. I don't know if it's matched by win or kill ratio, but it's very tiring. Yesterday I had some good games and I killed a lot, because today I get involved and in the 3 that I have played, all games in which they beat us and nothing can be done. I've been like this for months and it's already tiring
You’re describing RNG matchmaking?
Dude has a 55-65% win rate complaining about non-existent SBMM

slunk432 - EU evenings
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bueskyting
Rifleman
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17 posts 15 Jan 2024 joined
24 Jul 2026 at 11:44 #4

Some of you will say that it doesn't exist, but I'm TIRED of starting to play, that I'm good at a few games, and that the next day or after a while, I only play in games in which the rival team massacres us and beats us by beating. I don't know if it's matched by win or kill ratio, but it's very tiring. Yesterday I had some good games and I killed a lot, because today I get involved and in the 3 that I have played, all games in which they beat us and nothing can be done. I've been like this for months and it's already tiring
You’re describing RNG matchmaking?
Dude has a 55-65% win rate complaining about non-existent SBMM :csgo_dead:
RNG? Well, I never had this experience in Battlefield BC2, 3, 4, Hardline, 1, 5... Only now that we don´t have dedicated servers

bueskyting - Lurker
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Lotoscar3456
Rifleman
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12 posts 4 Jun 2025 joined
24 Jul 2026 at 14:23 #5

SBMM was confirmed by the devs before launch. Don't let anyone gaslight you. Everything in this game feels artificial.

Lotoscar3456 - BF64s
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grim3747
Field Medic
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24 posts 2 Feb 2020 joined
24 Jul 2026 at 15:45 #6

Yeah the game feels terrible, it definitely caters to cheaters way more than it does to legit players. DICE don't give a single ♥♥♥♥ though, they cahsed their checks

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Timohah
Squad Lead
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76 posts 27 Jun 2021 joined
24 Jul 2026 at 16:00 #7

Some of you will say that it doesn't exist, but I'm TIRED of starting to play, that I'm good at a few games, and that the next day or after a while, I only play in games in which the rival team massacres us and beats us by beating. I don't know if it's matched by win or kill ratio, but it's very tiring. Yesterday I had some good games and I killed a lot, because today I get involved and in the 3 that I have played, all games in which they beat us and nothing can be done. I've been like this for months and it's already tiring
You’re describing RNG matchmaking?
Dude has a 55-65% win rate complaining about non-existent SBMM :csgo_dead:
yeah i have 600 wins and over 3000 loses over the fact it puts me in losing rounds 80% of the time.....last night i got dropped in to 4 rounds in a row that had less then a 100 tickets to go on a team that was losing the last target in breakthrough when i joined.....i never spawned in those matches but its still 4 loses for me on my record......
last i will never understand why people try to discredit things the developers have said them selves.....there is skill based match making in the game that is just trash.....

Timohah - BF64s
PTFO or mute.

wuyanlong
Rifleman
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20 posts 25 Apr 2019 joined
24 Jul 2026 at 16:07 #8

You’re describing RNG matchmaking?
Dude has a 55-65% win rate complaining about non-existent SBMM :csgo_dead:
yeah i have 600 wins and over 3000 loses over the fact it puts me in losing rounds 80% of the time.....last night i got dropped in to 4 rounds in a row that had less then a 100 tickets to go on a team that was losing the last target in breakthrough when i joined.....i never spawned in those matches but its still 4 loses for me on my record......
last i will never understand why people try to discredit things the developers have said them selves.....there is skill based match making in the game that is just trash.....:vaultkey:
if SBMM was real then you should avg around a 50% winrate (with a deviation of maybe +-5~10%) your current alleged winrate based off what you shared here is 16%...

wuyanlong - BF support
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Foxyswager
Field Medic
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24 Jul 2026 at 16:11 #9

yeah i have 600 wins and over 3000 loses over the fact it puts me in losing rounds 80% of the time.....last night i got dropped in to 4 rounds in a row that had less then a 100 tickets to go on a team that was losing the last target in breakthrough when i joined.....i never spawned in those matches but its still 4 loses for me on my record......
last i will never understand why people try to discredit things the developers have said them selves.....there is skill based match making in the game that is just trash.....:vaultkey:
if SBMM was real then you should avg around a 50% winrate (with a deviation of maybe +-5~10%) your current alleged winrate based off what you shared here is 16%...
My win % is 49.3 after 1521 matches.
But why does it have to sit ~50? Because can't you get better and be amongst the better group in every match; therefore, going above 50 %? And vice versa.

Foxyswager - ET / smokes
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wuyanlong
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24 Jul 2026 at 16:19 #10

if SBMM was real then you should avg around a 50% winrate (with a deviation of maybe +-5~10%) your current alleged winrate based off what you shared here is 16%...
My win % is 49.3 after 1521 matches.
But why does it have to sit ~50? Because can't you get better and be amongst the better group in every match?
because if it consistantly matches you against players of your same skill lvl...
to make it easier to understand if you cloned yourself and played 1v1 against yourself you would probably win 50% of the time and your clone would win the other 50% becauase you both have the same skill.
most people dont actually get all that better just by casually playing after a certain point and to the extent that a player does (if they actively try to improve rather then just play casually) then SBMM will try to find better players to play against then what you were previously playing against (because it tries to match skill lvl).
there are some exceptions to this where there are objects that can wildly swing a match with very few methods to deal with (helis and jets in BF6 example) but generally you should avg a 50% winrate over a large sample of games in a SBMM system

wuyanlong - BF support
Ammo box is friendship.

Foxyswager
Field Medic
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24 Jul 2026 at 16:25 #11

My win % is 49.3 after 1521 matches.
But why does it have to sit ~50? Because can't you get better and be amongst the better group in every match?
because if it consistantly matches you against players of your same skill lvl...
to make it easier to understand if you cloned yourself and played 1v1 against yourself you would probably win 50% of the time and your clone would win the other 50% becauase you both have the same skill.
most people dont actually get all that better just by casually playing after a certain point and to the extent that a player does (if they actively try to improve rather then just play casually) then SBMM will try to find better players to play against then what you were previously playing against (because it tries to match skill lvl).
there are some exceptions to this where there are objects that can wildly swing a match with very few methods to deal with (helis and jets in BF6 example) but generally you should avg a 50% winrate over a large sample of games in a SBMM system
Ok, that makes sense, good example. The win % depends on the team performance as well yeah?
Cos I generally/usually come top 1-10 (usually somwhere in the middle of that), meaning I do perform/score better than most. But still lose if the team as a whole isn't good enough to beat the other team of players. So, the % is not just dependent on you but also the performance of the team as a whole right?
Yeah, I play casually, don't try to get better. Just play to have a good time.

Foxyswager - ET / smokes
Utility first.

Timohah
Squad Lead
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76 posts 27 Jun 2021 joined
24 Jul 2026 at 16:27 #12

yeah i have 600 wins and over 3000 loses over the fact it puts me in losing rounds 80% of the time.....last night i got dropped in to 4 rounds in a row that had less then a 100 tickets to go on a team that was losing the last target in breakthrough when i joined.....i never spawned in those matches but its still 4 loses for me on my record......
last i will never understand why people try to discredit things the developers have said them selves.....there is skill based match making in the game that is just trash.....

if SBMM was real then you should avg around a 50% winrate (with a deviation of maybe +-5~10%) your current alleged winrate based off what you shared here is 16%...
if it was done right it could be 50%......and again you are trying to disprove what the developers said.....meaning you have nothing.....

Timohah - BF64s
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wuyanlong
Rifleman
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20 posts 25 Apr 2019 joined
24 Jul 2026 at 16:46 #13

Ok, that makes sense, good example. The win % depends on the team performance as well yeah?
Cos I generally/usually come top 1-10 (usually somwhere in the middle of that), meaning I do perform/score better than most. But still lose if the team as a whole isn't good enough to beat the other team of players. So, the % is not just dependent on you but also the performance of the team as a whole right?
yes that is one of the biggest issues with SBMM in team games. Players dont always play consistantly for various reasons and it becomes very hard to actually match players of similar skill reliably without having to use other systems (commonly used MMR, a value that just goes up or down when you win). imo SBMM is still a long way off from actually being true SBMM.
if it was done right it could be 50%......and again you are trying to disprove what the developers said.....meaning you have nothing.....
i have no idea what the devs said but thats twice now youve said that without bothering to provide a link to your claims. regardless the devs lie all the time. like how they said they "fixed netcode" yet you still see issues of people dying a second after they are behind cover, or someone shooting and most of their bullets dont register...
furthermore your own stats (assuming they are true) are a counterexample to it existing in the firstplace.

wuyanlong - BF support
Ammo box is friendship.

Dxir
Rifleman
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14 posts 12 Jun 2024 joined
24 Jul 2026 at 16:47 #14

Some of you will say that it doesn't exist, but I'm TIRED of starting to play, that I'm good at a few games, and that the next day or after a while, I only play in games in which the rival team massacres us and beats us by beating. I don't know if it's matched by win or kill ratio, but it's very tiring. Yesterday I had some good games and I killed a lot, because today I get involved and in the 3 that I have played, all games in which they beat us and nothing can be done. I've been like this for months and it's already tiring
You’re describing RNG matchmaking?
Dude has a 55-65% win rate complaining about non-existent SBMM :csgo_dead:
You sound fun at party’s.

Dxir - EU evenings
CET after work.

Kori_Luxury7413835021
Rifleman
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16 posts 28 Sep 2022 joined
24 Jul 2026 at 17:41 #15

It does exist, and it's a strong one. That was the reason they were fighting against server browser back in the beta, of course, the newbies with 0.8 k/d won't notice it, but that is the point, they are the ones they are trying to tie to the game.

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Jaymod days. Still here.

Vanhosiik123
Rifleman
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20 posts 6 Jun 2021 joined
24 Jul 2026 at 18:06 #16

I hardly ever win, so used to loosing... worst matchmaking ever in BF games, you either win, or lose by landslide.

Vanhosiik123 - Old guard
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